[e2e] Re: crippled Internet

Bob Braden braden at ISI.EDU
Wed Apr 18 14:51:02 PDT 2001

   *> responses to DoS attacks get sent? Who ends up paying for them?),

Actually, the last is easy: the administrators of the nodes that were
"stolen" to mount the DoS attack pay for the traffic generated by
their nodes.  This provides the right incentive structure, IMHO.

  *> legislation to prevent that fraud (since you're no longer using up

What fraud?  If you send a packet, you pay.  If you don't pay, your
certificate of access is revoked.  (Large amount of hand-waving here,
of course).

  *> someone's leased capacity, but actually stealing from their provider/
  *> phone company), and resulting stronger regulation of services -- which
  *> discourages new applications.
  *> And then value-added charging gets implemented, where UDP packets cost
  *> far more than TCP packets, since anyone using UDP is obviously up to
  *> no good. ICMP packets will be _really_ expensive.

Why should the network care about UDP/TCP/SCTP/whatever transport?  It
would charge for IP datagrams.

  *> If the world's going to move to usage-based charging, it's going to
  *> have to implement some kind of widespread authentication model
  *> first...


The hard question you didn't mention is how to divide the cost
between the two ends of the connection.

Bob Braden

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