[e2e] SCTP

[Randall Stewart]

Craig:

Wow, you always did impress me ... now you have really
impressed me..

I do think it is possible for someone without SCTP knowledge
to, using the RFC and ref-impl's, go ahead and implement
a user land version in 3-6 months but I would think it
would be tough sledding to do it in the kernel in 6 months.

I have just begun a KAME associated project with 2 other
folks.. we are hoping to be done within 8 months...we may
get done sooner but I am not sure we can make that much sooner...

Now to be truthful I don't see that any of us have full time
8 hours a day available... more like 2 of us 5 hours a day and
the third person will have less time.... so if Jayesh has
someone else helping him he may be able to do it...

But in any case (speaking with a lot of experence working
in the kernel) it will be a long tough process to finish
in 6 months with a stable full-featured implementation...

(the Linux folks have had at least two people working on
 it for a year and a good part of the last 6 months they have
 had at least 6 people... and they are still not done yet).

R

Craig Partridge wrote:
> 
> Well, I have a couple of benchmarks for you.
> 
> I implemented RDP (without a reference implementation) in the BSD kernel in
> 16 days (12 hour days) in 1987.  I was an M.Sc. candidate at the time and
> had done one prior protocol implementation (HMP) in the BSD kernel.
> 
> In a fit of craziness, I assigned doing RDP in user space to my first computer
> networking class at Stanford.  They had 4 or 5 weeks and it came very close
> to killing them.  It was not my finest moment.  About half the class dropped
> out during those weeks.  But of those who stuck it out, many later thanked
> me -- they'd learned an astonishing amount about how a protocol really works.
> And I think that's true -- implementing a protocol gives you a perspective
> that simply reading a spec or a book does not.
> 
> So yes, you could do it in 5-6 months, esp. with a reference implementation
> to look at.  And you'll learn a lot.  And it will be hard.
> 
> Craig

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Randall R. Stewart
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