[e2e] tcp connection timeout

Vadim Antonov avg at kotovnik.com
Fri Mar 3 17:23:07 PST 2006

On Fri, 3 Mar 2006, Joe Touch wrote:

> Indeed - I (and others) are suggesting TCP isn't the place to focus in
> this case.

Joe, you're getting stuck on "repeat", sorry.  I've heard that assertion
two dozen times already, repeating it does not convey any new information.  
I'm not interested in hearing opinions (not even in opinions of a large
group of people with impressive credentials) - I'm interested in hearing
rational argumentation.

Since I haven't heard any logically meaningful counter-arguments showing
why the offered reasons to implement keepalives in the transport layer
rather than at application layer are not good (and neither did I hear
anything more specific than "application knows better" - no scenarios, no
demonstration of inability to do something in the alternative way - in
favour of app-level implementation of keepalives) I assume you don't have

This makes further discussion pointless. I'm sorry that I failed to 
explain my position adequately, and my apologies to those who had to read 
the long rants.


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