[e2e] end of interest
Jon.Crowcroft at cl.cam.ac.uk
Sat May 10 01:52:58 PDT 2008
IEN 1 has some discussion of isarythmic flow control - this applies
quite well to aggregated traffic without source attribution
In missive <email@example.com>, John Day typed:
>>>a paper that landed on my desk from the sigcomm 2009 rejection heap
>>>entitled "Endless Arguments in Systems Design" has some nice protocol
>>>fragments based around a new taxonomy of nodes in the graph
>>>rather than host + router + middle box,
>>>(or end- and intermediate- system as ISO used to term them)
>>>we only have 1 type of node (lets call it a synch)
>>>instead of 1-1, 1-n, and n-1 communication,
>>>we have 0-n and n-0 communication
>>>the zero indicates uncertainty about the eventual recipient
>>>(or the antideluvian originator)
>>>of course, a sequence of 0-n, n-0
>>>patterns can be constructed indicating cascades or swarms
>>>and possible aggregation and disaggregation of content.
>>Isn't this just a datagram or maybe a multicast datagram?
>>>interesting questions arise about
>>>reliability, flow, and congestion control
>>>in such a system - using the famous arguments
>>>in their truest sense from that old paper
>>>from which this august list may take its marching orders,
>>>is quite tricky...
>>This begins to sound like purposely constructing a convoluted
>>situation so there is something to solve rather than simply adopting
>>the straightforward solution. Have we really come to this?
>>Perhaps Stoppard's Guildenstern (as opposed to Shakespeare's) would
>>have an answer to that sort of question: how to do feedback with an
>>uncertain source. Lets see, "I am getting these feedback control
>>messages but I am not sure where they are coming from . . ." ;-)
>>But then that has to be more fun than solving the long standing
>>problems that might require some hard thinking. What was it that
>>Ford Prefect said?
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