[e2e] a means to an end
David P. Reed
dpreed at reed.com
Thu Nov 6 14:02:31 PST 2008
Fred - I have nothing against you, and nothing against Cisco or the
IETF. I apologize for any bad feelings that seemed to be directed
against persons or institutions. I was reacting to the *idea* that IETF
RFC's or the Internet as built (mostly out of Cisco routers) is somehow
the "right" answer, or that studying either of them answers the
discussion Crowcroft started.
Generally, I react sarcastically to citations of holy writ - and your
note cited about 5 RFCs by number - when involved in a conversation that
started out focusing on addressing in general, and my seriously meant
question in regard to the role "location" need play in end-to-end
I admire and respect the IETF, Cisco, and Fred Baker. Always have.
Fred Baker wrote:
> On Nov 6, 2008, at 1:29 PM, David P. Reed wrote:
>> OK, OK. that's not communications - because only the holy scripture
>> of the Cisco router defines "real" communications. :-) They have a
>> patent on it, which they license to their IETF.
> Some day I'll figure out what you have against Cisco, the IETF, or me.
> It seems that we can't engage in a simple conversation without a barb
> from you.
> Until I do, I'm going to leave this on the table. I'll ask you to do
> the same.
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