[e2e] [IRSG] E2E Research Group is shutting down

Aaron Falk falk at bbn.com
Mon Nov 23 14:39:57 PST 2009

Craig & Karen-

My thanks to you and Karen -- and Bob Braden too, of course -- for your
effort in keeping the RG going.  I know this decision wasn't arrived at

Best regards,


Aaron Falk
Internet Research Task Force

Craig Partridge wrote:
> Dear Friends and Colleagues:
> After 26 years, the End-to-End Research Group has decided to cease existence
> as of January 1st, 2010.  While there is certainly still end-to-end research
> to be done, the group had ceased to effectively serve as a forum for those
> discussions.
> The E2E group had a great run, serving as a place where many researchers
> could bring their ideas for initial, informal, airing.  The meetings could be
> bruising.  (At one meeting, a member tried to encourage a speaker by saying
> "We're all friends here" only to pause and say, "No, I'm sorry, actually we
> eat our young, but proceed anyway").  But the meetings usually also brought
> insights.
> Ideas that were tested in E2E meetings include slow start and improved
> round-trip time estimation, Random Early Drop, Integrated and Differentiated
> Services, Weighted Fair Queuing, PAWS, and Transaction TCP.
> We'd like to single out Bob Braden's leadership in E2E's successes.  Bob
> was chair of E2E from its inception until a few years ago.
> To support continued discussion of end-to-end research issues, the
> end2end-interest list will continue operation.  We're grateful to Joe Touch
> for offering to keep the list alive.  Joe will circulate a note soon about
> how the list will be managed going forward, after its Research Group home
> goes away.
> Thank you!
> Karen Sollins and Craig Partridge
> co-chairs, End-to-End Research Group

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