I was just hinting that, based on that fact alone, I already like it. ;-) - ferg -- Jon Crowcroft wrote: let me conjecture that any decent future internet architecture that is proof against the current securiy threats of today's internet wil be proof agaoinst intercept, blocking, takedown, and surveillance by _anyone_, whatever their good or bad intentions so by presenting a half-bakde appproach to preventing ddos, I am necessarily going to do nnoy law enforcement of course, i dont see why anyone should enforce _their_ laws on _us_ (or _our_ laws on _them) - its an outmoded local view:) In missive <20060503.155818.14160.1115506@webmail24.lax.untd.com>, "Fergie" typed: >>At first blush, it sounds like law enforecement will hate it, >>due to inability to determine the end-points. :-) >> >>I need to think about that for a little while... in the meantime, >>I'll read the paper. ;-) >> >>Cheers, >> >>- ferg >> >> >> >>-- Jon Crowcroft wrote: >> >>Its that time of year for a new network architecture - rather than build= >> an overlay on IP >>I reckon the way to build a DOS proof, multipath, resilient network that= >> can function in = >> >>low or high bandwidth, fixed or mobile, lossy or reliable, connected or = >>disrupted, topologies >>is to built the packet protocol over an overlay - so my bif is to rebuil= >>d >>IP on Swarms (initial prototype is IPv6 on bittorrent) >> >>packet swarming systems are nice because >>i) you go download your packet, so noone can dos you >>ii) topological attacks are hard when you dont know where I am getting t= >>he different pieces of the packet from. >>iii) incentive alignment thru the token system enforces approximate symm= >>etry >>iv) multipath is for free and tunable >>v) you still have anonimity if you really want it >>vi) content addressable (pub/sub/ event/notify) is a first class network= >> function >>vii) multicast is for free >> >>of course IP on bittorrent begs the question of what the bittorrent is o= >>n....so = >> >>that's what the NSF proposal would be about (of course i'm not eligable = >>for >>nsf money:-) >> >>so this is a free donation to the US NSF proposal writers guild:) >> >> >>cheers >>jon >> >>remember, you have 2 days left to register for REALMAN in Florence:- >>http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Research/SRG/netos/realman/ >> >>p.s. if the GENI is out of the lamp, who is making the 3 wishes...? >> >> >>-- >>"Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson >> Engineering Architecture for the Internet >> fergdawg@netzero.net or fergdawg@sbcglobal.net >> ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/ >> cheers jon