[e2e] using p2p overlays to overcome recursive NATs/realms 
    Jon Crowcroft 
    Jon.Crowcroft at cl.cam.ac.uk
       
    Sat Feb  9 02:23:29 PST 2002
    
    
  
right - we dont see much fastewr than light transmission either for simialr reasons
In message <F66A04C29AD9034A8205949AD0C901040194DCA7 at win-msg-02.wingroup.windeploy.ntdev.microsoft.c
om>, "Christian Huitema" typed:
 >>> I deliberately left out the second private realm becase, again based
 >>> purely
 >>> on observation) I rarely see true private-to-private connections
 >>
 >>Well, there is a reason for that -- with NAT, it just does not work.
 >>This is not the same as saying that there is no demand...
 >>
 >>-- Christian Huitema
 cheers
   jon
    
    
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