[e2e] Skype and congestion collapse.

Alex Cannara cannara at attglobal.net
Wed Mar 9 16:16:26 PST 2005


Syed, the misconception is that apps are to manage network resources.  That's 
not how more robust systems, like the established telco and private network 
systems work.  Systems must protect themselves, even a car's gearbox, from 
external abuse.  The Internet is only different in that attention wasn't paid 
to doing that in its design.

Alex

Syed Faisal Hasan wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Perhaps we may focus our discussion on the following lines from 
> Emmanuel's mail:
> 
> 
> "IMHO, I think that applications like Skype should be responsible for
> managing the congestion they could potentially cause. This brings me
> to my question. If more and more applications start to behave like
> Skype and selfishly worry more about their business model than about
> the health of the global Internet, is there still a possibility of a
> congestion collapse today ? Or, are those worries well behind because
> the problem can be compensated by introducing more bandwidth into the
> network "
> 
> I 'ld like to add the following:
> 
> " If congestion collapse and/or having fair share of bandwidth is not an 
> issue then what 's
> the purpose of carrying out research on TFRC ? Is  there any possibility 
> of global deployment
> of TFRC based on RTP ? what is the chance of DCCP replacing UDP in some 
> applications?
> What should be the research direction for people who want to do research 
> in this area?"
> 
> 
> Faisal
> 



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