[e2e] Skype and congestion collapse.

Tschofenig Hannes hannes.tschofenig at siemens.com
Tue Mar 15 02:01:41 PST 2005


i hope that we will be able to develop building blocks for an emergency
solution which will also work in a p2p alike environment. a certain degree
of infrastructure support will be required but i am not sure if this is
truely the "complex solution" you have in mind. 

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Lars-Erik Jonsson (LU/EAB) 
> [mailto:lars-erik.jonsson at ericsson.com] 
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 15. März 2005 02:24
> An: Alex Cannara; end2end-interest at postel.org
> Betreff: Re: [e2e] Skype and congestion collapse.
> 
> 
> Alex,
> 
> People love Skype and other IP applications because
> they do not have to pay for things they did not ask
> for. VoIP is not POTS, and by using VoIP the user
> can choose what kind of voice application he wants
> to use, instead of being forced to pay for a complex
> solution with "features" he did not ask for.
> 
> Consider the following text from the Skype end user
> license agreement:
>  "No Emergency Calls: by entering into this Agreement
>  You acknowledge and agree that the Skype Software
>  does not and does not intend to support or carry
>  emergency calls."
> To me, this is a very positive thing, as I know how
> complicated and thus expensive it (by nature) is to
> promise anything else, and I am not willing to pay
> for that.
> 
> To some players on the market, it is of course a
> threat that people now have the freedom to choose,
> and that can cause panic in the walled gardens. But
> personally I think this is good for communications,
> and also for the communications industry (at least
> for those who see opportunities instead of threats).
> 
> Cheers,
> /L-E
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: end2end-interest-bounces at postel.org
> > [mailto:end2end-interest-bounces at postel.org]On Behalf Of 
> Alex Cannara
> > Sent: den 14 mars 2005 22:59
> > To: end2end-interest at postel.org
> > Subject: Re: [e2e] Skype and congestion collapse.
> > 
> > 
> > Ok Lars, rely on telepathy when your boss falls down the 
> > stairs, or your wife
> > starts delivering while visiting your office, both during a 
> > power outage. 
> > Yeah, try that!  :]
> > 
> > Alex
> > 
> > Lars-Erik Jonsson (LU/EAB) wrote:
> > 
> > >>And, just think, every Cisco VoIP switch has to have a
> > >>fixed geographical location and a POTS line, if its 
> > >>users want to have a 911 call ... 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > And who said the user wanted his Voice application to
> > > be an emergency line, and pay for the cost of that?
> > > 
> > > /L-E
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 


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