[e2e] new network architecture idea -

Jon Crowcroft Jon.Crowcroft at cl.cam.ac.uk
Wed May 3 23:40:27 PDT 2006

let me conjecture that any decent future internet architecture
that is proof against the current securiy threats of today's internet
wil be proof agaoinst intercept, blocking, takedown, and surveillance
by _anyone_, whatever their good or bad intentions

so by presenting a half-bakde appproach to preventing ddos, I
am necessarily going to do nnoy law enforcement

of course, i dont see why anyone should enforce _their_ laws on _us_ (or _our_ laws on _them) - its
an outmoded local view:)

In missive <20060503.155818.14160.1115506 at webmail24.lax.untd.com>, "Fergie" typed:

 >>At first blush, it sounds like law enforecement will hate it,
 >>due to inability to determine the end-points. :-)
 >>I need to think about that for a little while... in the meantime,
 >>I'll read the paper. ;-)
 >>- ferg
 >>-- Jon Crowcroft <Jon.Crowcroft at cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
 >>Its that time of year for a new network architecture - rather than build=
 >> an overlay on IP
 >>I reckon the way to build a DOS proof, multipath, resilient network that=
 >> can function in =
 >>low or high bandwidth, fixed or mobile, lossy or reliable, connected or =
 >>disrupted, topologies
 >>is to built the packet protocol over an overlay - so my bif is to rebuil=
 >>IP on Swarms (initial prototype is IPv6 on bittorrent)
 >>packet swarming systems are nice because
 >>i) you go download your packet, so noone can dos you
 >>ii) topological attacks are hard when you dont know where I am getting t=
 >>he different pieces of the packet from.
 >>iii) incentive alignment thru the token system enforces approximate symm=
 >>iv) multipath is for free and tunable
 >>v) you still have anonimity if you really want it
 >>vi) content addressable (pub/sub/ event/notify) is a first class network=
 >> function
 >>vii) multicast is for free
 >>of course IP on bittorrent begs the question of what the bittorrent is o=
 >>n....so =
 >>that's what the NSF proposal would be about (of course i'm not eligable =
 >>nsf money:-)
 >>so this is a free donation to the US NSF proposal writers guild:)
 >>remember, you have 2 days left to register for REALMAN in Florence:-
 >>p.s. if the GENI is out of the lamp, who is making the 3 wishes...?
 >>"Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson
 >> Engineering Architecture for the Internet
 >> fergdawg at netzero.net or fergdawg at sbcglobal.net
 >> ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/



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