[e2e] Collaboration on Future Internet Architectures

marbukh@antd.nist.gov marbukh at antd.nist.gov
Wed May 2 10:39:41 PDT 2007

Just a note to 1/:
As the number of nodes grows, the upper limit capacity per node drops.
This may have negative implications for large-scale, purely wireless networks.


At 02:40 AM 5/2/2007, Jon Crowcroft wrote:
>virtualization could be a very good thing for solving one past and one future
>1/ some people have claimed that one can build many-to-many multihop radio
>systems that offer more capacity as the number of nodes join. If this is true,
>this can operate within quite a narrow band (e.g. ISM) and should be 
>for a very long time. If we can show its true in that band, other bands can
>follow - within regions we still need to multipelx spectrum in some hard non
>liquid (dave reed) way just til some of the technology is 
>better  the identifiers
>and management of this could be done through Virtual Private Wireless Channel
>Idenfiers which might use some name space we have seen before
>2/ some people claim that IPv6 will never deploy in the core, and 
>that we have to
>live with IPv4 core networks even thugh practically all significant 
>end systems
>are IPv6 capable. on the other hand other people have looked at the net and
>decided that one of the big problems is that receivers can be sent 
>data from just
>about anywhere even though their kinship groups are relalyl quite 
>limited. what
>we need is a virtual private IPv4 internet per kinship group, and the VPII
>(Virtual Private Internet Identifier, yes it does sound like a VPI 
>in ATM speak:)
>would be the IPv6 provider number (yes this isn't new, but i thought 
>i'd spell it
>of course, with plutarch, all this would be easy, but its taking us longer to
>code than we expected:-)
>  >>A vital part of this effort concerns fostering collaboration and
>  >>consensus-building among researchers working on future global network
>  >>architectures. To this end, NSF has created a FIND Planning Committee
>  >>that works with NSF to organize a series of meetings among FIND grant
>  >>recipients structured around activities to identify and refine
>  >>overarching concepts for networks of the future. As part of the research
>  >>we leave open the question of whether there will be one Internet or
>  >>several virtualized Internets.
>I made some comments on FIND in a podcast given by the guardian 
>newspaper online
>people - linked froom iTunes podcast stuff (its free) or probably findable via
>p.s. is this what they mean by being poleaxed:

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