[e2e] end of interest

Mahesh Balakrishnan mahesh at cs.cornell.edu
Fri Apr 18 17:11:29 PDT 2008

In fact there seems to be pushback from both ends --- we can't deploy
end-to-end protocols because major companies own the end-host stacks; and we
can't push mechanisms deep into the network because ISPs and router companies
own the network. Arguably the latter source of pushback played a major role
in the emergence of the e2e philosophy; but now we have equally powerful
commercial forces on the other side.

So effectively the only practical mode of deployment seems to be the 'almost'
end-to-end middlebox --- one hop away from the end-host but not quite into
the network (and the Maelstrom work I presented day before yesterday at NSDI
would be one example).

- mahesh


-----Original Message-----
From: end2end-interest-bounces at postel.org on behalf of David P. Reed
Sent: Fri 4/18/2008 9:13 AM
To: Jon Crowcroft
Cc: 'end2end-interest at postel.org'
Subject: Re: [e2e] end of interest
I personally think that the network community has become frustrated with 
the inability to explore end-to-end protocols because the endpoint 
stacks are "locked in" by vendors in proprietary code.

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://mailman.postel.org/pipermail/end2end-interest/attachments/20080418/fb169fc0/attachment.html

More information about the end2end-interest mailing list