[e2e] a means to an end

Ping Pan ping at pingpan.org
Fri Nov 7 11:59:38 PST 2008


Jon,

I had the same thoughts when reading this year's Sigcomm paper "Taming the
Torrent". The paper actually is not related to your comment here, but it
made one wondering...

It's obvious that there is a big hole when it comes to mapping the users who
roam in the network and the content that sits somewhere and can get
replicated to else where by someone at some time.

There seems to be many problems and ideas floating around. It may be a
lookup issue whereby CDN-like DNS redirect may solve the problem or perhaps
DHT. It may also be a network resource management issue... It may also be a
YouTube problem. ;-)

Not sure we will get into philosophy debate, but this has strong implication
in business.

So before we start to offer solutions, maybe we should try to fully
understand the problem first.

2 cents,

- Ping


On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 1:31 AM, Jon Crowcroft <Jon.Crowcroft at cl.cam.ac.uk>wrote:

>
> We need a new kind of network layer _service_ - to support finding end
> systems
> as they move around and so on.
>
> <snip>
>
> It is unusual kind of service for the internet community as it isnt an
> overlay,
> it has to work inside the IP layer
> as it is something end systems and routers need to share state/fate with,


<snip>

>
>
> The service _might_ be implemented by some sort of 1-hop DHT
> but it needs to support consistency and security.
>
> It isnt DNS based and it isnt BGP
> based because both of those technologies
> have major design flaws and surive
> only due to heroic bandaids
>
>
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