[e2e] [OT <maybe>?] NYTimes article on the structure & shape(topology) of the internet

ashish makani ashish.makani at gmail.com
Tue Mar 2 10:32:58 PST 2010

An NYT article on peering,

May not be very relevant to e2e, but seemed interesting to me.

I learnt about several concepts i was unaware of...

David Alderson's HOT model [http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1115527] &
 some new developments like SFMIX [http://www.sfmix.org/]

On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 5:45 PM, David P. Reed <dpreed at reed.com> wrote:

> Jon - excellent piece.
> I agree that the mania around the Future Internet (especially the idea that
> we MUST have a Clean Slate) seems to have been a temporary reaction by a
> research community to a funding structure problem, or perhaps a process of
> Bandwagon Joining by people who saw a new bandwagon that seemed to have
> political traction.
> Bandwagons and Clean Slates are rhetorical moves that can have enormous
> value in shaking a clogged bureaucratic process - so there's not necessarily
> anything wrong with them, but they have indeed become unlikely to produce
> "good science" or "good engineering" or anything else, now that they are no
> longer shaking anything up.
> That said, the idea that one might be able to solve problems without
> Waiting for Obama or Waiting for IETF or Waiting for Copenhagen is one of
> the inspiring things about the Internet in comparison to the idea that one
> must Wait for DARPA or Wait for NSF to fund a zillion CS and EE departments.
> We might be able to start a small skunk works to think about decentralized
> solutions to managing the energy flux that impinges on the geosystem, to
> both avoid absorbing too much energy and disrupting the planet's
> inhabitants, while at the same time providing support for 10 Billion future
> inhabitants.
> That might be based on a few principles of the sort you describe, and an
> approach that doesn't require top-down agreement by all the stakeholders who
> want to control it.
> Hmmm....
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