[e2e] Free Internet & IPv6
jon.crowcroft at cl.cam.ac.uk
Wed Sep 19 01:20:02 PDT 2012
So here's an idea - (pace, Bob Briscoe and Google Adwords)
(DA - Like
Congestion Exposure, only backwards - employing Yet Another Level of
bandwidth doesn't have much operational cost - te real cosrt is the shadow
price of other people's traffic you displace - if there isn't other
traffic, then the additional cost of carrying yours is little.
So we can have a receiver pays model for capacity - and the way they pay is
via third party ads..
now this works very nicely if we observe that
congesiton exposire requires you to transparently reveal where the
congestion is - i.e. the source of ECN marks...
so the source can also reflect the receiver to a wiling advertiser site,
who then sends adverts with ECN-willing-to-pay marks ...
sine the adverts flow the opposite direction from the traffic they don't
add to congestion - indeed on many links (e.g. Adsl) there's plenty of
capacity that way anyway
that way, the net is free at the network layer, not just uo in the clouds
I see a bright new decongested future, full of IP banner ads
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 12:25 AM, Fred Baker (fred) <fred at cisco.com> wrote:
> On Sep 18, 2012, at 3:26 PM, Arjuna Sathiaseelan wrote:
> > Lets put the economics aside for a moment. I am more thinking like if
> > we can assign a class of IP addresses, where essential government
> > services run, and lets say if the intermediate network devices are
> > configured (within the network operators) to recognise that these IP
> > addresses can be allowed to access without the client/user to pay,
> > then the network operators can always allow access to these services.
> > So are there any technological challenges here to realize this? I dont
> > think so.
> There's no technical challenge there. It's a business problem. Allocate
> some addresses from the existing pool and use them for a defined service
> such as you're describing.
> What happens next, of course, is that since bandwidth costs money and no
> money is being exchanged, one gets no bandwidth. You've had the experience
> in hotels, no doubt; they offer free wifi in every room, by which they mean
> they have installed wifi APs on a LAN and connected that to some service
> provider. It works just fine as long as you send no packets on it. If you
> decide to send packets, oh, well gee. 20% loss is not a problem, is it?
> It's better than losing ALL of the packets, and after all it's free...
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